Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Responsa for Bava Batra 119:13

ר' ינאי הוה ליה אילן הנוטה לרשות הרבים הוה ההוא גברא דהוה ליה נמי אילן הנוטה לרשות הרבים אתו בני רשות הרבים הוו קא מעכבי עילויה אתא לקמיה דר' ינאי א"ל

Said Raba to him: [This is not so, because] the other can say to him, I can preserve my privacy from you if you have one door, but if you have two doors I cannot.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Because if one door is shut the other may still be open. ');"><sup>10</sup></span> ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET, HOWEVER, HE MAY MAKE A DOOR FACING ANOTHER PERSON'S DOOR. [The reason is] because he can say to him: In any case you have to preserve your privacy from the eyes of the passers-by<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who can look through the door and the windows. ');"><sup>11</sup></span> [and therefore you may as well do so from me also]. <b><i>MISHNAH</i></b>. A CAVITY MUST NOT BE MADE UNDER A PUBLIC PLACE, [TO WIT,] PITS, DITCHES AND CAVES. R. ELIEZER PERMITS THIS PROVIDED [THAT THE SURFACE IS STRONG ENOUGH TO BEAR THE PASSAGE OF A WAGON LOADED WITH STONES. SPARS OR BEAMS MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO PROJECT [FROM THE WALL OF A HOUSE] OVER THE PUBLIC WAY. THE OWNER MAY, HOWEVER, IF HE DESIRES DRAW BACK HIS WALL FROM THE STREET AND THEN ALLOW THEM TO PROJECT. IF A MAN BUYS A COURTYARD IN WHICH ARE SPARS AND BEAMS [PROJECTING], HE HAS A PRESCRIPTIVE RIGHT TO KEEP THEM THERE. <b><i>GEMARA</i></b>. [R. ELIEZER SAYS etc.] Why do the Rabbis forbid this? — Because the surface may wear thin without being noticed.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Cf. supra 27b. ');"><sup>12</sup></span> SPARS AND BEAMS MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO PROJECT etc. R. Ammi had a spar projecting over an alley-way,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which is private property. ');"><sup>13</sup></span> and another man had a spar projecting over a public way. [Some passers-by objected]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' These words occur in our texts, but in brackets. ');"><sup>14</sup></span> and he was summoned before R. Ammi. He said to him, Go and cut it down. But, said the man, you, Sir, also have a projecting spar? Mine, he replied, projects over an alley-way the residents of which have given me their consent. Yours projects over a street; who is there to surrender the [public's] rights? R. Jannai had a tree which overhung the public way, and another man also had a tree overhanging the street. Some passers-by objected and he was summoned before R. Jannai. He said to him:

Teshuvot Maharam

Q. The community wedding-hall borders on an alley into which the back doors of many houses open. The leaders of the community desire to open a door leading into the alley. They claim that part of the alley belongs to the community and that a door once led from the wedding-hall into the alley. The inhabitants of the alley, through their representative, deny that the community has any rights there, and introduce as evidence a bill of sale, countersigned by the leaders of the community, which reads: "A (a former resident there) sold to B his house and his part of the alley which borders on the community wedding-hall." Thus the leaders of the community admitted, by countersigning the bill of sale, that the alley belongs to the people who live in the houses around it, and that even though the wedding-hall borders on it, the community possesses no rights in the alley.*The wording of this Responsum is quite obscure and it is difficult to reconstruct the question. The interpretation given above seems to me to be near the truth; it is based on the readings of the old Prague edition.
A. The leaders of the community may not open any doors in the wedding-hall leading into the alley, even though they certainly have rights there, since a door that had been completely closed may not be reopened; and no new door may be opened in an alley without the permission of the inhabitants there. On the other hand, the evidence produced by the inhabitants of the alley is worthless; for leaders of a community sign a bill of sale as judges and not as witnesses; and according to the Talmud (Ket. 109a), judges sign a document without reading it and, therefore, are not responsible for its contents.
SOURCES: Pr. 118.
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Teshuvot Maharam

Q. B's building was contiguous to A's property. The foundation of this building extended two hand-breadths beyond the wall itself. B wanted to build another wall in line with the edge of this foundation, the wall to extend two hand-breadths beyond the existing wall. A protested vigorously claiming that B's property ended at the edge of the wall of the building mentioned above, and that the foundation of such building extended two hand-breadths in his (A's) property.
A. Since B was in undisturbed possession of the width of the foundation, he was thus in possession of the disputed two hand-breadths of ground along the whole length of the property, and upwards reaching into the sky. Therefore, if B will take an oath to the effect that he did not remove his neighbor's landmark [when the foundation was built], the disputed two hand-breadths of ground will belong to him. Although according to Biblical law no oath is administered in disputes involving real property, such an oath is required by Rabbinic enactment.
SOURCES: Cr. 239; Am II, 184; Mord. B. B. 558; Agudah B. B. 109.
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